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Nov 29, 2012 8:00am PST
on the economy specifically right how giving the looming fiscal cliff. so i suggest -- or i imagine they will discuss that, as well. but do we expect anything larger to come out of this? the white house is managing expectations saying there is really no agenda for this luncheon. it's really to bury the hatchet and to allow the country to move on, as well. >> right now, though, we do know treasury secretary tim geithner as we were telling everyone was on the hill, these marathon meetings with congressional leaders. what more do we know about those meetings? obviously starting off with some of the harder ones at first bhak through nancy pelosi as his last. >> we know the treasury secretary will be heading to the hill with rob nabors. he will be meeting with all of these congressional leaders separately. starting off -- or including house speaker john boehner. of course boehner will be key to moving the needle on these fiscal cliff negotiations. this comes on the heels of a phone call between president obama and speaker boehner which occurred credit. my sources are telling me the phone
FOX Business
Dec 5, 2012 7:00pm EST
, fiscal cliff threatening the economy, but maybe not? we take it all up with moody's chief economist, and deutsche bank senior economist here next. stay with us. lou: you know, it may surprise some that december is historically the strongest month for investors. the s&p500 posting gains in december, 82% of the time since 1990. it's that 18% that should trouble folks, but are concerns with the fiscal cliff giving investors a reason to be less than optimistic? joining me is john, and carl, senior economist for deutsche bank. gentlemen, thank you for being here. start with the treasury secretary. the man in charge of our treasury is out telling everyone that the administration he works for is a part of is perfectly prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in order to raise a tax rate to 39.6%. does that make any sense to you? are you shocked, surprised? >> well, i guess i'm not surprised given we're in the early stages of the discussion, but for the economists and forecasters out there calling this is the fiscal slope, not a cliff or believe it's worthwhile to go over the cliff, it's not th
FOX Business
Dec 5, 2012 10:00pm EST
said the obama administration is now willing to go over the fiscal cliff. moody's chief economist, deutsche bank senior u.s. economist telling us just how much that will hurt the economy and the markets,nd, of course, investors and everyon in this country in today's money lineup, news on the economy brought life to wall street today inspiring some investors, the news an unexpectedncrease in factory orders up for a second straight month, and the biggest gains in productivity in the third quarter in two years. business activity, along with new orders, showing their biggest gains last month since the first quarter. stocks finished off their highs. the do up 83 appointmes at the close. the s&p gaining 2.25, and the nasdaq under the weight and prsure of the biggest stock, apple, dropping 23 points. volume today rising to alst 4%.2 billion shares. app 8 stock, as i said, today, laggerred and immense weight on e ma. that stock fell 6.5%, $37, and concerned about the lack of new products on the horizon, concern increased competition in the market might force apple to cut margins to remain
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 5:00pm EST
or may not go over the fiscal cliff but regardless the economy has stalled and taxes are going up. i mean there is certainty. it is just not great certainty. >> you know, as a family-owned business after 91 years being in business we know that there's a business cycle. what we need to continue to advocate for as job creators is the virtue of free enterprise. we need to stand up for the principles that are going to allow us to provide our people employment, to create prosperity. we have to do that in a unified way because, even though the forecast can look bleak at different times, we have an incredibly resilient economy. great job create, out there given the chance which make a big difference. that is what we have to continue working on. melissa: jim, aren't you afraid of being punished either by the public or by the government for speaking out at this point? i mean i have talked privately to people on wall street who have said, you know, they feel like get pistol-whipped when they say anything against the administration. that it comes back to bite them. at this point it is better to keep
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 1:00pm EST
it matters to your point what happens with the fiscal cliff. the economy is at stalemate. unemployment, we look at jobs report tomorrow, is dismal. we're liking inflationary environment down the road. this is bad news. >> you could could make the argument invite blowing past short term helpful, long term payne full. melissa: spending cuts, tax hikes are very dramatic going over the cliff. when you look at numbers, still is like five to one raising taxes to cutting spending. >> that's right. melissa: no one is really talking about cutting spending. isn't that the first thing you would do? if your fiscal house was in such disarray, household at home, first thing you do is stop spending. no one is doing that. >> what scares me, is that point. whether you agree or disagree hiking taxes i am not a fan of it but i think it will come. we can get past this. charlie gasparino and i have argued this. one of the consequences of the election the president will probably get his way raising most rates. melissa: right. >> i'm not saying i'm a fan. let's get past that, let's make it happen. republicans re
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 6:00am PST
on the debt. >>> all the numbers indicate that going off the fiscal cliff would hurt the u.s. economy in the short term. but could it be the best thing in the long run? going off that fiscal cliff. to this point most of the conversation has been focused on what happens in january, and for good reason. there's no deal in congress. tax rates go up for a lot of folks, all americans. and a $1.2 trillion worth of defense and spending cuts will be automatically enacted. excuse me, that fiscal cough i told you about. the alternative minimum tax kicks in and put it all together and the results are pretty. the economy would contract by half a percent in 2013. unemployment would raise to 9.1% and the economy would experience what cbo said would be judged as a recession. but after that, then things start to look pretty good. the cbo says after next year by the agency's estimates economic growth will pick up. the labor market will strengthen returning output to its potential level. 5.5% by 2018. essentially if no deal is struck, the federal government would be forced to do what it's refused to do
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 7:00pm EST
. the -- the economy is going into recession in new year. lou: do you believe there is no way to avoid the fiscal cliff.
FOX Business
Dec 3, 2012 3:00pm EST
to avoid a fiscal cliff. to your point, you recently said, even if we reach a deal, the economy is still at series risk of a recession. >> that is right. we are looking at and economy that is very weak. growth was very disappointed. less than 2% real gdp growth in 2012. we will be struggling to achieve that next year, even without hitting the economy with more fiscal bad news. if we go over the cliff, it is really a major downturn. uncertainty remains about what is coming next. put that all together and we could certainly be put on the edge of a recession. lori: that manufacturing number coming in the low 50s, singling contraction. is that the first signal that this economy really is in trouble? >> certainly not the first signal. household earnings down. real disposable personal income has not increased since may. we are really looking at an economy that is weak. ooly thing keeping keeping consumer spending going is that households have been prepared to cut back on their savings rate to such a low level that i do not think there is more room or that in 2013. lori: there are bright spots
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 3:00pm EST
than $600 billion in tax increases and spending cuts kick in. the fiscal cliff potentially sending the economy into recession. the fear of the cliff. is that putting a veil over your eyes and pretending you seeing good news that could make better trades for your portfolio? you need to see the forest for the trees. to help do that, liz saunders in a fox business exclusive, charles schwab's vice president and chief investment strategist. what is the biggest mistake that the investor is making right now as it pertains to navigating that very rocky fiscal cliff landscape? >> they are trying to trade around perceived outcomes. that is fairly treacherous. we don't get a sense that a lot of investors are doing that -- [talking over each other] liz: there were buying in on the dips because they are trading around he headlines. >> there's a lot of tax related strategy happening right now, many of which make a lot of sense, but i have asked the question of loss, what would you put money on a particular outcome? i wouldn't. that is a dangerous strategy. >> one scenario could be as damaging a
FOX Business
Nov 29, 2012 11:00am EST
need to have fundamental tax reform tied in to the fiscal cliff negotiations or we are never going to get anywhere on that front and that is dragging the economy down. i think taxes have to be higher. $400 billion out of medicare is about what gets cut every year anyway. medicare has been cut from the baseline every year in budgets for as long as i can remember. [talking over each other] connell: that the democrats would sign on to? what number could you get if you had $400 billion? >> something that addresses the fact that there are $40 trillion in unfunded medicare liabilities over the rest of this century. i am adding that up, $400 billion doesn't get it done. connell: have to remember these things are stretched over ten years. in one case it was 12 years and we thought was 10. steve murphy, thanks for coming on. dagen: the u.s. embassy meantime in egypt now closed amid protests in the country against president mohammad morsi. voting has started on the new constitution. kc mcfarland, formerly distance secretary of defense and fox news national security analyst, great to see you.
FOX News
Nov 30, 2012 10:00am PST
back in place. it depends on how much you think going over the fiscal cliff will affect the economy. others say it will be devastating and others say it will be back. it depends on where you stand when you are making these sort of analyses. megyn: it feels like we are left with the economy -- with people's livelihoods and growth in the country and salaries and unemployment benefits. we are just left. both sides are accusing the other of being the untethered risk taker. last night speaker boehner made remarks demanding leadership on the president. here he is. >> this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. this is a moment for adults leadership. megyn: is there a political risk to the president? is there a political risk to him in looking a little too bashful little too smart, as they say, when it comes to this game? >> sure, there are political risks all around for both sides. he saw the president today. he has been doing this and will be doing more of it. trying to clean outside game and put pressure on and make the public put pressure on members o
FOX News
Dec 2, 2012 11:00am PST
should come sooner rather than later because just the threat of the fiscal cliff is already hurting our economy. now listen, i believe that raising tax rates hurts our economy, hurts the prospects for more jobs in our country. and i realize the president may disagree, but the fact is if there's another way to get revenue from upper income americans that doesn't hurt our economy, then why wouldn't we consider it? >> what if we go over the cliff. doesn't the president hold all the cards then? can't he say, all right, everybody taxes have increased. i'm offering 98% a tax cut of $2,000 a year. you are the party of lower taxes. are you going to refuse to cut people's tacks? >> nobody wants to go over the cliff. that's why the day after the election i tried to speed this process up by making the concession to put revenues on the table. it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> so you have been around this town a long time, you have been in a lot of negotiations, what is there game? what is their thinking as to how they are going to work their wil
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 11:00am PST
is. plus, governors are warnings that a failure to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff could mean havoc for state economies. they're telling congress to get together and get something done. i'll talk with two governors who met the president just a few hours ago, but first in today's money minute, here's a look at the markets. ♪ ♪ mom? dad? guys? [ engine turns over ] [ engine revs ] ♪ he'll be fine. [ male announcer ] more people are leaving bmw, mercedes and lexus for audi than ever before. take advantage of exceptional values during the season of audi event. gives you a low $18.50 monthly plan premium... and select generic hypertension drugs available for only a penny... so you can focus on what really matters. call humana at 1-800-808-4003. five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. you won't take our future. aids affects us all. even babies. chevron is working to stop m
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 6:00pm EST
the fiscal cliff is an imperative. we are having a one-sided conversation. the republicans have put out a plan saying raise revenue from reach people, banseed, spending cuts, and that landed with a thud over in the white house, no response, and the president has yet to put out a balanced plan, and what we got is i want $1.6 trillion in tax revenue. give it to me. gerri: and rid of the debt ceiling. >> we've seen this movie before. no ceiling, give me the revenue, i'll spend it. now what? until cuts are in place, this doesn't make sense. gerri: i want to hear what ann coulter said about the debate. >> don't cave on everything, but republicans feed into what the media is telling america -- >> wait a minute, i want to understand. you are saying then for pr purposes, they should give into obama on the tax rate. >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am -- >> you're saying obama, who is -- we don't have a revenue problem, ann. >> we lost the election, sean. gerri: what do you think of this? as a strategy, maybe it's the right thing? acknowledge that the american people voted for the president
FOX News
Dec 4, 2012 12:00pm PST
the fiscal cliff will not just impact the national economy but have a lot of impact on state and local economies, as well, and their state budgets, et cetera. the president, though, is standing firm. and jake carney saying unless the republicans give in on tax rates and raise the bush tax rates on the rich, there is no deal and the president is willing to go off the cliff. they hammered speaker boehner's proposal. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we are talking about in terms actual legislation to increase revenues it is magic beans and fairy dust. >>reporter: it doesn't sound like they are ready for a compromise. he said they do not take speaker boehner's proposal seriously enough to offer a counterpropsal so the white house believes the ball is still in the republicans' court. >>shepard: but speaker boehner has moved, if shiply and if for the first time in public but he has moved. >>reporter: he has. he is not willing yet, not yet, anyway, willing to raise tax rates. in speaker boehner's proposal he put revenue, tax revenue of $800 billion on the table. you her the white
FOX Business
Dec 4, 2012 11:00am EST
, today, the markets seem to be done on concerns about the swelling economy and the fiscal cliff, but this comes on a day when oil production in the united states hit another milestone. oil production last month hit the highest level since 1998, another step towards energy independence in the country, and another reason why oil prices are under pressure. the spread between the u.s. and europe, we're making a lot of progress on the oil production front, but across theeboard, we are seeing products really getting hit. oil, a feature today, down over five cents a gallon, and a lot has to do with the warm temperatures and slowing demand. other big news on europe, production coming back and crude pressing it down. the standard here, how the medal -- throwing it to sandra here, how the metals looking? >> gold and silver down, commodities in the red. gold, certainly, no two ways about it, a rough time of it lately. not just down $23 today, but dropping below the $1700 level, but despite that drop today, gold still up about 9%. so far this year, it's had a lot of volatility, but the same
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 4:00pm EST
-frank, with respect to where are our national economies going, where is the leadership? and we have the fiscal cliff in the united states. we're three weeks away from that. it's incomprehensible to me personally that we can still be facing that issue -- david: is a possible recession on the horizon? >> well, i hope not. i think that the ramifications of the fiscal cliff, um, will be important. i'm optimistic that we're going to get some leadership in washington that'll actually save us from having to go off that cliff or down that hill, if you will. but i think we are -- there's uncertainty. and whenever there's uncertainty, the market will have less volume in it. liz: tom kloet, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. liz: ceo of the tmx group. david: a u.s. plant right in the heart of canada. they don't realize it yet. [laughter] good to see you. >> thank you. david: well, is now the time to buy apple? a morningstar senior equity analyst thinks so and says some of the blame for the recent decline should fall on washington. why? find out why, coming next. liz: plus, choice hotels expanding its up
FOX Business
Nov 29, 2012 1:00pm EST
to the fiscal cliff. now there is a big potential that that could have a drag on the u.s. economy going forward. ashley: sure. >> i don't think we get to that point though. i think that there is going to be a resolved. i do believe between now and end of the first quarter, now that is a ways away we get it resolved. ashley: yeah. >> i think as we approach the end of the year we hopefully get some kind of guidance by the folks down in washington they're coming to some kind of resolution on it. ashley: and assuming there is some sort of resolution, what does that do to the market? you would expect a bounce. how big of a bounce? >> absolutely. i think you will see a major bounce. you will see the market start to really recover and people investing for the next year, year-and-a-half out. what it is going to do when we get this sort of resolution it is going to clear up the concerns out there. businesses have been sitting largely on the sidelines. investors are sitting on the sidelines. you see businesses understand where their costs are going to be. ashley: actually plan. >> exactly. they can under
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 8:00pm PST
with this fiscal cliff conversation. that's why a deal is going to be hammered out probably before the end of the year. the president does have a little political head wind. >> this gives, i think, labor a real opportunity to show the country the graph that we showed, the separation between corporate profits are right there at a record level and wages are going down. the republicans have been so strong to even want to take away workers voices in the workplace. but in these fiscal cliff negotiations, do you really think that the republicans see this chart and they need that economy to slow down a little bit if they are going to win this? >> maybe so. the income inequality in this country has been a problem but it has been for decades. it's been exacerbated by policies passed more recently. so when you go into negotiations, you ask, is it politically correct to be out there arguing that the 2% need to have their tax cuts protected? that's the problem that republicans face. labor does have a bit of an upper hand on this one. but then again, you look at all the stuff being offered as concessio
FOX News
Dec 1, 2012 4:00pm PST
shrink. on january 1 . we go over the so-called fiscal cliff. and massive government spending cuts. >> and some people fear going off of the cliff could cost thousands of jobs and push our fragile economy back in recession. it seems like we have been down this road before. that deal according to the president and congressional republicans is far from a sure thing. the president said it was a so-called balanced approach to solve this crisis and what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people. >> it is unacceptable for republicans to hold middle class tax hostage because they refuse to let them go up on the wealthiest americans. >> people saying that the deal he offered doesn't look like a deal. steve is live in the washington bureau. is there any movement on either side. >> not much. a few republicans who are willing to talk about higher tax rev news but not higher tax rates. the president made a direct appeal to the public. the toy factory in pin pen. he urged congress to pass a bill and extend the era tax cuts for middle class only. >> congress coul
CNN
Dec 4, 2012 4:00am PST
're going to talk about the fiscal cliff, we're going to talk about the global economy. we're going to talk about the civil war in syria. we'll talk about the royal baby coming soon. first we want to get right to zoraida sambolin for an update on the day's top stories. >> soledad, the fiscal cliff debacle, with 28 days remaining before drastic tax hikes and spending cuts take effect, a republican spending plan has been rejected by the white house. brianna keilar is live from washington. what now, brianna? >> well, right now it's about the pressure building and the clock kicking, zoraida. as house republicans in the white house try to ultimately broker a deal between two very different plans. house speaker john boehner's counteroffer, if you take a look at the headlines from this $800 billion in what would be savings from tax reform. so that is new tax revenue. but not done by increasing income tax rate on the wealthiest. but instead by closing tax loopholes, eliminating tax credits. and also $600 billion in health savings. that's what you'd get from entitlement reform. from reforming medica
FOX News
Dec 3, 2012 10:00am PST
. so the question is is the president serious about avoiding the fiscal cliff. we know pain in this country is bad on the economy. it would only broad and deep fn we hit a double dip recession. is the president serious about avoiding that cliff and if not, why not. i think some people are wondering -- megyn: do you think it is a matter of principle for the president? chris fire walt cam -- chris stt with a piece to say it's an ideological commitment on the part of the president to make the rich pay more and to give others more. for him it's an ideological mission to take the money from high income and give to it people who don't have as much. >> i agree with chris he said that. that's what he wants to do. but the curious part to me is you had quite a few lawmakers on the republican side of the isle start t --side of the aisle stao crack. they are willing to come to table and play ball. but the president is on the campaign trail and upping the states with totally ludicrous suggestions and plans like the one if you can call it that, the one he put out last week which is totall
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 8:00am PST
there of the business roundtable, the president just getting into the meat of the matter right now, the fiscal cliff issue that's taking a lot of the oxygen out of the room in washington, d.c. i understand we have the shot back up. let's go back to the president. no audio right now? can we show the president? he's actually taken to holding a hand mike so hopefully they'll get the audio issue figured out but we have congressman debbie wasserman schultz 1257bing by, the chair of the dnc and was listening like all of us were to the president and hopefully we'll get the audio issue revolved. congresswoman, good to have you with us. >> thanks, thomas. >> just as we were about to hear what the president was saying with regards to what's taking place in washington, d.c., with you and your colleagues we lost the audio. the vitriol is well established on both sides. the president and john boehner have reportedly not even taken time to speak to each other when face-to-face yesterday at a white house christmas event but it seems both sides can agree that the sky is blue on the one issue when keeping tax cuts w
FOX Business
Nov 29, 2012 10:00pm EST
. the economy is growing strongly. also because one thing newt gingrich got right, is so-called fiscal cliff is not a click. it is more like a fiscal bunny hill. therris automatic tax increases and automatic ending cuts would amount to 250 a year. >> the spending cuts he would put on the table, number two, i am from the school of thought of importance. we should let president obama bought the fiscal cliff and we should stop - [inaudible] lou: we will be back with the "a-team." i would like to explore this bunny hill thing as a metaphor for the fiscal cliff. for the fiscal cliff. it is a great relief you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal atteion. which is why we are proud to partner with health care professionals who understanthe difference that quality time wi
FOX News
Dec 6, 2012 3:00am PST
that, a lot of dough being thrown around. >> brian: how much do you know about the fiscal cliff? >> it reminds me about something i probably learned in school. but some type of cliff, the economy going pow. >> isn't that the government? this is embarrassing. >> brian: how many people really know what it is and what it means? we hit the streets. >> steve: indeed, and bob costas and his no spin zone to defend his half time gun control rant. what did he say and what does former nfl player think? he will join us live to react this hour. "fox & friends" hour two for thursday starts right now. >> gretchen: i thought the same thing that scarlet johansson was in times square answering ainsley's question. i thought what, a lucky day for steve and brian that yesterday they would have petra and today scarlet. >> brian: and the day before, victoria secret models. >> gretchen: what a week! >> steve: one of the young people when did respond said fiscal cliff, that sounds like something i probably studied in school. no. this is new. this is something that they've just fresh baked up for us. >>
FOX Business
Dec 3, 2012 7:00pm EST
to think about these events, but a very traumatic and serious. they avoid the fiscal cliff. we are talking about over $607 billion worth of money taken out of the economy next year. lou: i just want to put up the next cartoon that we have. it matters not which one you select. but this is one of my favorites. the debt commission saying it is very difficult. is very complicated and then cut spending. i don't think you could have cut better on to the essence of the issue. the absurdity creating obstacles to that resolution in washington d.c. >> but the problem here is that frankly there is a fine and out of capital that can be used up their divided either in the private sector which creates businesses and jobs and federal revenue or given to the government which is just a bureaucracy and creates nothing but bureaucratic management. if you look at the last gop congress and the expenditures, about two and half trillion dollars and now the president's proposals are about 4 trillion in spending with deficits and increased. it is the economy. lou: it truly is. and i want to also if we may put up t
FOX News
Dec 1, 2012 7:00pm PST
they want to go into a fiscal cliff. they believe there will be a short recession and at the end of the recession the economy will go sky high and people well railize that big government is good soup. they believe that use, you have a is what drives us to broadcast the world's biggest events in 3d, or live to your seat high above the atlantic ocean. it's what drives us to create eco-friendly race tracks, batteries that power tomorrow's cars, nearlyndestructible laptops, and the sustainable smart towns of the future. at panasonic, we're driven to make what matters most better. just another way we're engineering a better world for you. >> we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy issue and clearly the information given to the american people was wrong. and in fact ambassador rice said today it was wrong. >> we are significantly troubled by the answers we got and we didn't get, certainly overwhelming evidence. >> he is a member of the senate foreign relations committee which would consider the confirmation of ambassador susan rice if the pre
FOX News
Dec 3, 2012 6:00am PST
's economy goes over the so-called fiscal cliff. the white house and congressional republicans said to be deadlocked. president obama released his plan. it includes 1.6 trillion dollars in new tax increases. 50 billion in new stimulus spending. and stimulus, and new power to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval. tim geithner, john boehner appearing with chris wallace on fox news sunday. >> we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. we put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to get this question resolved but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they have actually asked for more revenue than they have been asking the whole entire time. >> in kind of a tough position now. it is going to be, obviously a little hard for them now. they're trying to figure out where they go next. we might need to give them a little more time to let them go next. we did what you expect from us. we laid out a very detailed, carefully designed set of spending savings and tax changes that help put us back on a path to fiscal responsibility. bill: where are we
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 11:00am PST
questions about jobs and the economy. this is similar, except it will focus on the fiscal cliff. $2,000 is the amount the average american will see taxes increase by if they can't get a deal done. i've been looking at the entries to this hash tag, it's mixed so president obama can expect tough x questions. one person writes in, why don't republicans in congress realize that when we voted for you we voted for your tax plan. that's one person. another writes in, what are you willing to compromise with the gop to get this fiscal cliff stuff done? i think president obama preparing to answer some tough questions from voters. over the weekend house speaker john boehner said these negotiations are nowhere. jay carney disagrees with that assessment. now phone calls at this point between president obama and congressional leaders, but the white house says the talks will be ongoing over the next several days, tamron. >> thank you. the president's q and a on twitter comes days after republicans flat-out rejected his opening bid in negotiations. house speaker john boehner appeared on one sunday
FOX Business
Nov 29, 2012 7:00pm EST
newt gingrich got right, this so-called fiscal cliff is not a click. it is more like a fiscal bunny hill. therr is automatic tax increases and automatic spending cuts would amount to 250 a year. >> the spending cuts he would put on the table, number two, i am from the school of thought of importance. we should let president obama bought the fiscal cliff and we should stop -- [inaudible] lou: we will be back with the "a-team." i would like to explore this bunny hill thing as a metaphor for the fiscal cliff. it is a great relief for the fiscal cliff. we will be right back. you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon®. lou: we're back with the a-team, angela, i think that president made a huge mistake, pushing the republicans to position where best deal is 1.2 trillion in automatic budget cuts, they are not getting that with this administration and take the hit on the bush tax
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 1:00pm PST
who refuses to compromise on the fiscal cliff. now, we know that attitude didn't work well with voters when republicans held the debt ceiling hostage last year, but now with the economy showing signs of life this week, the question becomes will they again place ideology above country? for more we go to julian epstein, a democratic strategist and professor michael eric dyson of georgetown university and an msnbc political analyst. welcome to you both. professor dyson, the economy appears to be rebounding. gdp was better in the third quarter than we thought, up from 2% to 2.7%. and by one estimate new home sales this year will be up 8%, and yet conservatives advise us to place ideology first. now, do they realize what that could do to this country come january and that it will plunge the nation into a certain depression? >> martin, they realize it, but i'm afraid they don't care. the reality is -- >> do you really believe that, professor dyson? >> i absolutely do. i believe this, i believe they are so mon know maniacal about pursuing their ideological beliefs they would defer even the fa
MSNBC
Nov 30, 2012 7:00am PST
who argue that we should go off the fiscal cliff, that it will push them to negotiate a sort of more thoughtful deal -- >> right. >> -- they say that it's not a fiscal cliff, it's, you know, more of a slope. having said that, what is your thought on the psychological impact if we go off the cliff? >> it's huge. it's tremendous. it's absolutely tremendous because it will go across the board from regular americans who are going to see their taxes go up from $500 to $2,000 for middle-income household. this is going to affect their bottom line tremendously. that's groceries. that's saving money. that's their savings money for the year. but also what about mortgage interest? will that affect the housing market? there may be initial -- basically, it will go back down again, the housing market. or if it gets phased in, maybe we'll see a jump because people will rush in before the deduction completely goes away. but i think there's a lot of concern and a lot of panic among regular americans about will i lose these tax deductions? and what's that going to do to the ability to pay all my bills
MSNBC
Dec 4, 2012 10:00am PST
the crux of this fiscal cliff negotiation -- what these fiscal cliff negotiations are all about. they're about fairness. when the president and congressional democrats talk about the need for balanced approach, to deficit reduction and dealing with the fiscal cliff, we're talking about fairness. we're talking about making sure that if you work hard and play by the rules everyone has a chance to succeed. that the middle class needs certainly tight right now. speaker pelosi and my colleague congressman tim walls, filed a discharge petition today to take the bill that we have, that has already passed the senate, that grants certainty to the middle class, to take that bill up and make sure that we can extend the middle class tax breaks before the holidays where we can give -- that's what everyone agrees on. i don't know any republican or democrat that thinks we should let those tax rates -- tax cuts for the middle class expire. so we should pass that now. and then on the things that we're having more trouble agreeing on, we should sit down at the table. the one thing i can assure you, the
CNN
Dec 2, 2012 6:00am PST
the plan to avoid the fiscal cliff is a thelma and louise theory. >> we're trying to get these guys to come together and reach an agreement that's going to be good for the country and for the economy. >> then what now? with democratic senator mark warner and kelli ayote. benghazi and obama's second term. former hewlett-packard ceo carly fiorina. i'm candy crowley. and this is "state of the union." >>> republicans call -- sufficed to say, it is unacceptable to them. the president's opening round offer includes $1.6 trillion in new taxes, $400 billion in savings from medicare and other entitlement programs, $50 billion in new stimulus spending, and an additional $285 billion to fund depreciation and mortgage programs, unemployment insurance benefits, and payroll tax cuts. >> this extra spending, heats actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut. i mean, it's -- it was not a serious proposal. >> wile his aides were on capitol hill offering up the opening bid, the president was making his case in pennsylvania campaign style. >> at the end of the day a clear majority of americans, de
FOX Business
Nov 30, 2012 11:00am EST
a slow-growth economy. cheryl: using markets have already priced in the fiscal cliff arguments but why do we see markets get so volatile when john boehner comes out, are almost afraid to see him talk again today because senator reid comes out and down and up. so much reaction. >> you can't rule out the risk that nothing is done and they don't reach an agreement and if taxes go up and spending is cut we will be in a recession next year. and employment 9%, we can't rule that out but it doesn't make sense to let that happen for the administration, the principal of punishing the wealthy is enough to allow the rest of the country to go into a funk doesn't make sense. cheryl: we see numbers and taxing the top 2% do nothing to deal with the overall deficit problem but you also think at the end of the day doesn't matter about the deficit. we are focused on the wrong issue and you are telling long-term investors stay in, don't tinker. >> stay the course. stocks are still cheap, very dumb policy makers at the end of the day. this is not sandy number 2. we can fix it. the stock market is not just th
FOX Business
Dec 3, 2012 1:00pm EST
so much that in anticipation of the fiscal cliff and not knowing what it is going to mean to the economy they have been basically reining in business spending and hiring. i think actually it sets up for release of pent-up demand if you will in 2013 which could help the economy reaccelerate. dennis: mark, it seems to me like we've never been farther apart. with what geithner said this weekend, the only way we have compromise if the republicans raise rates on the rich. i'm just wondering, aren't we going off this cliff? >> well, dennis, i think we're likely to go off of it. the question is whether it is rendered into a slope versus a cliff. at this juncture seems unlikely give the fact we have a lame-duck congress. we have 20 days until the end of the year, the triggerr the fiscal cliff. obviously as you said, increasing acrimony across party lines as opposed to the happy talk we heard just after the election. i think though if the market saw there was at least a down payment on the fiscal cliff, something agreed to be picked up after the first of the year, i think equity pr
FOX News
Dec 1, 2012 5:00pm PST
speeches about the fiscal cliff. the president never presented a plan until this week . the reception on capitol hill was to say the least chilly. senator mcconle laughed at the proposal when presented to him. joining me is allen west. colonel thank you for being here. [ applause ] what wasyour reaction when you finally saw what the president put on the table? >> i was in complete shock. it has nothing to do with reality. if you look at the president's propose to raise taxs and 50 billion more in stimulus spending and want to extend 99 weekings of unemployment benefits which is it a 30 billion a year . the other thing that troubling is that the president wants his own control of raising the debt ceiling . so i don't think we have a president that is serious about getting the debt under control and deficit and government spending under control especially when you understand that we have ha and post office in trouble. we continue to get closer to the fiscal cliff. i think that the president should take a case study and look at calvin coolige and john f. kennedy when they went in and low
FOX Business
Nov 28, 2012 8:00pm EST
but we think in order to address the problem both in terms of the fiscal cliff and just as importantly or more importantly the long-term debt path of this country which has direct impact on the health of the economy you have to have basically a three-legged stool. you have to have entitlement reforms. you've got to rein in spending, and you've got to reform the tax code. and what we have --. neil: i see one out of three of those being done right now. you're right. it could change. we don't know what is happening behind closed doors but right now i see a lot of talk about taxes. i don't see much talk about the other two ingredients? >> there is lot of concern about that. a lot of people are talking about entitlement reform an reining in spending. neil: what did they fear? what did you or your colleagues say in meetings with republicans if it is too lopsided in taxes a bad deal is better than no deal? no deal is better than a bad deal? what? >> no. what our message was, in order to get a good deal you have to put something together that will have a marked impact on the economy and on mar
FOX Business
Dec 6, 2012 11:00am EST
take. thanks for being with us. do you think we are going over the cliff? >> cliff of sorts. the fiscal cliff was created by politicians who lack the courage to do the best for the american people. and already has done severe damage to the economy. now we have democrats who want to suck money out of the economy in tax and we have rhino republicans in name only who wants spending cuts. both those things will do damag% to the economy and any compromise will damage the economy and push it further into deep recession. neither side discusses the real problem which is the enormous costs of big government. cost in money and regulations and intrusion. neither side discusses that because they are career politicians and big government is their career. dennis: what should republicans do? should they cave and let tax rates go up on the rich or hold out and let the company -- the country go over the cliff? >> they hold out and let the country go over the cliff and aasolutely insure this lending limit, borrowing limit is enforced. to force government to shrink itself. this is the only way they will d
MSNBC
Dec 5, 2012 11:00am PST
with the fiscal cliff and there's hot rhetoric to go around. >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue. >> in order for us to raise the amount of revenue that's needed just by closing deductions and loopholes for high earners we'd have to, for example, eliminate or severely cap the char itible deduction. >> an obsession to raise taxes not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is doing something about the entitlements, taking on the wasteful spending in washington. >> and meantime, "the new york times" jonathan wiseman reports behind the scene republican leaders are considering the president's plan to extend middle class tax cuts now an address the debt and spending in the new year. here's republican senator tom coburn on "morning joe." >> actually, i would rather see the rates go up than the other way and greater chance to broaden the base in the future. >> do something, a down payment on cuts, on investments and revenue this year. and then in the
FOX Business
Nov 30, 2012 6:00pm EST
. china's top newspaper, giving the u.s. a time lashing over the fiscal cliff. the people's daily. did you ever read that one? they blasted our congress threatened to unleash what they called a self-created recession hurt the world economy. the paper went on to school lawmakers here saying that the u.s. should act like a responsible power. oh, boy. of course, china's interest is purely self-interest here. the last thing he needs it needs is a slowdown in consumer spending. after all, where would the chinese and their economy be if it weren't for america? that's right. a lot more to come during this hour. what this tax fairness mean? i will break down the numbers. folks like warren buffett don't want to talk about this. and aaa and unusual warning about a blend of gasoline. the federal government wants you to start using the gas. but will it damage your car? aaa auto says yes. we have answers ahead. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the mercedes-benz winter event is back, no matter which list you're on. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease a 2013 ml350 for $599 a
MSNBC
Dec 6, 2012 1:00pm PST
into a devastating recession. i mean, david said it well in his piece this morning. if you think the fiscal cliff is a problem, this kind of hostage taking around the debt ceiling is multiples of that and the president is, i think, very correct to stand extremely firm and be extremely clear that he's not going to play that game. >> karen, the politics of this are frightening for the republicans. the latest polling does not support their stance. and given that they spent four years obstructing this president and failed, why do it again from the outset of his second term? >> well, you know, there's good news for the republicans, martin. karl rove's group, crossroads gps is going to spend some money for some ads, and we know that's a successful strategy in convincing the american people. >> that's good news. >> i can't pass that chance up to do that. >> i understand. >> i think part of what's so important about the polling, we talked about this on monday and the quinnipiac polling you were showing, the republicans have had time to make their arguments and it's not working. more people are moving tow
FOX News
Dec 2, 2012 5:00pm PST
the fiscal cliff despite knowing that deadline was looming, the president never presented a plan until this week and the reception on capitol hill was, to say the least, chilly. senator mcconnell even laughed at the proposal when it was presented to him. joining me now, florida congressman allen west. colonel, thanks so much for being here. >> thanks, thanks for having me, dana. [applause]. >> what was your reaction when you finally saw what the president was putting on the table? >> well, i was in complete shock because it really has nothing to do with reality. when you look at the president's proposal to raise 1.6 trillion in new taxes, he wants 50 billion more in stimulus spending, he continues to want to extend the 99 weeks of unemployment benefits which will be another 30 billion per year and also, the other thing that was very troubling was that the president wants his own control of raising the debt ceiling. so, i don't think we have a president that is serious about getting our debt under control and getting our deficit, which the federal government spending under control, espe
MSNBC
Dec 3, 2012 1:00pm PST
on the wealthy. you guys are willing to go off the fiscal cliff? >> it republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a the a time when the american economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> while geithner was drawing a line in the sand, house speaker john boehner was busy trying to lift his jaw off the flar after geithner presented the president's debt reduction plans to him last week. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i have just never seen anything like it. >> yes, indeed, it seems that republicans are not quite sure what to make of the president taking a harder line across the bargaining table. >> you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. the president's plan is just, quite frankly, a joke. >> i'm not sure about that, senator graham, but there will be plenty of time for jokes later this evening with every member of cong
FOX Business
Dec 5, 2012 9:20am EST
and paid huge dividends. stuart: i've got 30 seconds. >> yes. stuart: are we going to get a fiscal cliff avoid dan deal? >> we may get some form of a deal. we are not going to get a real deal. i think the economy is going to be hurt and i think both sides, especially the president deserve blame. stuart: who will get the blame? >> the republicans clearly are going to get the blame and hurting themselves. stuart: but we may go into a much slower economy and hurts the president. >> bad news for the president and even worse news for the the american people. stuart: i agree with that. all right, doug, not bad the at all. >> still a democrat. stuart: is that a tag line to every interview? >> it may well be. doug, thanks very much indeed. >> the so the president has made it very, very clear, drawn a line, no fiscal cliff deal without higher tax rates for the highest earningers, tax rates have got to go up. question, what will speaker boehner have to say about that? his reaction will be new at ten this morning. mark stein is going to be here as well and he'll join us to explore that and more. we
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